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    Post by bigjohn_bluesfan Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:40 am

    I have been off gear now for a week and 1/2 and I have already lost 5 pounds....fuck

    I was on a 16 week cycle of sust and deca, and prop at the end.... I took 500 IU HCG while on cycle.... now Im in PCT and I have read so much shit that I have forgotten what I originally planned for my PCT

    Anthony Roberts says this and Llewelyn says that and I dont know what the fuck.... how much HCG should I take during PCT if I took it while on cycle? I am also running nolva at 40mgs per day... thanks
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    Post by 69ECLIPSE Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:33 am

    hey bro relax your not gonna retain everything.ive just finished my pct and i lost 7 lbs,but no big deal i expected this.i think if you used hcg during the cycle you should be fine with the nolva.i used nolva and clomid and it worked well for me.i did hcg during the cycle not after.what you should look into is aromasin,visions has posted some great info on it,check it out!
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    Post by D.K. Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:07 am

    you dont need hcg for pct in my opnion as this spikes estrogen levels.
    Clomid and nolva are key in my opnion.

    4 weeks

    week 1 clomid 200mg // 60mg nolva for 7 days
    week 2 clomid 150mg // 40mg nolva for 7 days
    week 3 clomid 100mg // 30mg nolva for 7 days
    week 4 clomid 50mg // 20mg nolva for 7 days

    tribuals 3 to 5 grams for 2 months.
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    Post by bigjohn_bluesfan Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:01 am

    69ECLIPSE wrote:hey bro relax your not gonna retain everything.ive just finished my pct and i lost 7 lbs,but no big deal i expected this.i think if you used hcg during the cycle you should be fine with the nolva.i used nolva and clomid and it worked well for me.i did hcg during the cycle not after.what you should look into is aromasin,visions has posted some great info on it,check it out!


    bro I read the whole Anthony Roberts article on aromasin if thats what your talking about. I just read it way after I bought all my gear and I cant shell out 75 bucks for it right now..... next cycle though..... thanks bro
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    Post by D.K. Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:59 am

    always stick with the proven basics that work, No disrespect to the other guys you mentioned but some of their procedures can get pretty complicated.
    Although I dont know who Either of those people are.

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    Post by bigjohn_bluesfan Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:56 am

    D.K. wrote:you dont need hcg for pct in my opnion as this spikes estrogen levels.
    Clomid and nolva are key in my opnion.

    4 weeks

    week 1 clomid 200mg // 60mg nolva for 7 days
    week 2 clomid 150mg // 40mg nolva for 7 days
    week 3 clomid 100mg // 30mg nolva for 7 days
    week 4 clomid 50mg // 20mg nolva for 7 days

    tribuals 3 to 5 grams for 2 months.



    thanks alot DK.... are you suggesting that synergistic type of PCT with Nolva and Clomid combined or did you mean one of the two (either or)
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    Post by D.K. Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:51 am

    I would use both bro, I belvie pct is more important the the cycle itself, if done incorrectly it can ruin the entire cycle, your on the right track just keep on for a few more weeks. The tribulas you can get in the local gnc or on line its a natural test booster and works pretty good if taken at 3 to 5g a day.

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    Post by 69ECLIPSE Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:46 am

    bigjohn_bluesfan wrote:thanks alot DK.... are you suggesting that synergistic type of PCT with Nolva and Clomid combined or did you mean one of the two (either or)


    he means both combined
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    Post by Visions Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:25 am

    Thats correct... HCG isn't for PCT.... it's use is for during and up to PCT...
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    Post by NTG Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:02 am

    Visions wrote:Thats correct... HCG isn't for PCT.... it's use is for during and up to PCT...

    I concur. I run trib at 4-6g/day PC and love it(along with standard PCT).
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