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todlichdosis50

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question about all the Ancilliaries

Post by todlichdosis50 on Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:25 am

ive been reading threw these pages for a little while now and have seen people praise and hate just about everyone of them.

i understand nova more or less fills receptors leaving estrogen to float around in your body. it seems to be the choice for symptoms of gyno.

A-dex seems to block the production of estrogen to a degree but ive been hearing the use of Cabaser is preferred. however ive also read that Cabaser is for lactating gyno and increases libido. well my libido sure does suffer but ive never had any problems with gyno, even with high test/ deca cycles.

Visions recommends Aromasin and Clomid for PCT but is Aromasin recommended during the cycle to suppress estrogen.

El Mucho made a post that claims Aromasin destroys estrogen receptors, and that cant be good.

can some one that really knows what they're talking about fill me in about all these different drugs and when the best time to use them are...


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Re: question about all the Ancilliaries

Post by giantkilr on Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:10 am

different ancillaries can work different for each person...

AROMASIN is going to be your best choice for blocking estrogen...

CABERGOLINE is going to be your best bet to fight PIG induced gyno which can be really nasty cause the nips can leak & become really sore...

NOLVADEX, ARIMIDEX, & LETRO/FEMARA are all good anti-e's but depending on the person one can work better than the other...

oh yeah, it also helps if you are getting good quality anti-e's & not getting bunk stuff...that is never a good thing!


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Re: question about all the Ancilliaries

Post by gustavo77 on Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:48 am

Ok here is a brief rundown:

Nolva is a SERM (selective estrogen receptor modulator), blocks estrogen from binding to certain estrogen receptors, ie breast tissue.

Aromasin: does not kill or destroy estrogen receptors, it is a suicide inhibitor of aromatase...it permanant deactivates the aromatase enzymes. The enzymes not the receptors. Even though it permanantly deactivates these enzymes, your body will produce more. So there is no risk of not having any estrogen in your body for the rest of your life after supplementing with Aromasin. Aromasin is the ultimate A.I., as it effectively decreases estrogen and dose not have a negative effect on lipids or other health markers.

Cabaser (AKA Cabergoline, Dostinex) is an anti-prolactin drug and dose not have any effect on estrogen.


Aromasin is best used on cycle and for pct, 25mg/day is the average dosage. On cycle to keep estrogen levels in check and for pct to boost natural test. Cabaser should be used with deca or tren to prevent prolactin induced sides. 0.5mg eod or e3rd is all that is needed to prevent prolactin induced sides.


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Re: question about all the Ancilliaries

Post by Visions on Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:43 am

gustavo77 wrote:Ok here is a brief rundown:

Nolva is a SERM (selective estrogen receptor modulator), blocks estrogen from binding to certain estrogen receptors, ie breast tissue.

Aromasin: does not kill or destroy estrogen receptors, it is a suicide inhibitor of aromatase...it permanant deactivates the aromatase enzymes. The enzymes not the receptors. Even though it permanantly deactivates these enzymes, your body will produce more. So there is no risk of not having any estrogen in your body for the rest of your life after supplementing with Aromasin. Aromasin is the ultimate A.I., as it effectively decreases estrogen and dose not have a negative effect on lipids or other health markers.

Cabaser (AKA Cabergoline, Dostinex) is an anti-prolactin drug and dose not have any effect on estrogen.


Aromasin is best used on cycle and for pct, 25mg/day is the average dosage. On cycle to keep estrogen levels in check and for pct to boost natural test. Cabaser should be used with deca or tren to prevent prolactin induced sides. 0.5mg eod or e3rd is all that is needed to prevent prolactin induced sides.

Big Bump...

You said you didn't get gyno from Test and deca cycle but your libido suffered... its because you didn't take Cabaser and prolactin was killing your libido


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