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Mr.E

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First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by Mr.E on Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:22 am

First cycle posts are the most common posts on any AAS discussion board. This post will help guide anyone trying to decide on their first steroid cycle.

DIET-
First things first.As a newbie you must make SURE that you're diet is on the money.When I say diet I dont mean diet as in to drop fat,I mean you're overall food consumption.You need to know how to eat correctly and in accordance with you're goals.Bulking or cutting it doesn't matter.Diet is the most important factor in making an AAS cycle work the way it is supposed to. You need to know the proper foods to eat,in the proper amounts and at the right times.I suggest doing basic diet research untill you have a good understanding of eating correctly.Don't even think about starting your first cycle untill you have done this otherwise you will be waisting you're money and ruining what could have been a great first cycle.

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It is my opinion that a first cycle should be bulking,always.If you feel you need to drop some fat then cut naturally using ECA,low carb high pro diets and lots of cardio. Dont waist your first cycle on trying to cut up mass you dont have is what I'm trying to say.Once you feel you are at a low enough BF% then is time to choose a bulk cycle.

Here are the three bulk cycles that I feel are the most effective overall.They are all simple and very cost effective.The weight gain numbers I quoted are averages,individual results will vary.This is of course assuming you are running the correct diet.

Cycle#1 Good for 10-15lbs.
Wk..Enth
1.....300
2.....300
3.....300
4.....300
5.....300
6.....300
7.....300
8.....300
9.....300
10...300
11.off
12.off
13.150mg Clomid ED
14.100mg ED
15.50mg ED

*Notes.
Keep nolvadex on hand just in case.A small dose [.25-.50mg ED]of Arimidex ED will keep the water retention down and estrogen levels in check decreasing your chances of gyno symptons. You can also use Test Cyp instead of Test Enth.

Cycle#2 Good for 15-25lbs.
Wk..Enth..Deca
1.....250...200
2.....250...200
3.....250...200
4.....250...200
5.....250...200
6.....250...200
7.....250...200
8.....250...200
9.....250...200
10...250...200
11.off
12.off
13.150mg Clomid ED
14.100mg ED
15.50mg ED

*Notes.
Same as above.The overall AAS dosage per/week has increased to 450mg/week with this cycle over 300mg/week as in the first cycle.You can use EQ instead of Deca.

Cycle#3 Good for 20-30lbs.
Wk..Enth..Deca
1.....400...300
2.....400...300
3.....400...300
4.....400...300
5.....400...300
6.....400...300
7.....400...300
8.....400...300
9.....400...300
10...400...300
11.off
12.off
13.150mg Clomid ED
14.100mg ED
15.50mg ED

*Notes
Same as above.The overall AAS dosage per/week has increased to 700mg/week with this cycle over 450mg/week as in the second cycle.

Which one to choose is up to you.That depends on how aggressive or passive you want to be.
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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by wedge on Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:10 am

And please take note that orals aren't recommended for first time users. Most orals cause extreme strength increases and in the unexperienced hands, will cause injuries. Save the orals for the second cycle.


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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by T-Bone on Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:53 am

Or third or fourth! Don't jump on the orals too soon, or any AAS until you are thoroughly studied on the subject! Be safe!
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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by dutchtommy on Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:46 am

For those of us that are terrified of needles, (a lame weakness I know, I wanted a fear of something cooler but was last in the 'pick-your-phobia' line at my creation) the mere thought of shoving needles is really terrible. Got any advice for taking orals?
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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by paulie617 on Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:38 pm

yeah for cutting you can do, clen with anavar and primo tabs. for bulking you can do D bol or anadrol with andriol. That's all I can think of
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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by sempei on Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:18 pm

Where is the best spot to inject at?
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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by goldberg on Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:20 pm

quads is the best....easy to get to and can hold more than arms at a time. some like glutes by i dont really like it....its mostly personal preference bro
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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by kwyckemynd00 on Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:02 pm

Thx for the write up, England Good post!
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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by sgammons on Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:35 pm

Good post E first timers should read this.

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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by John_Bobbit's_Unit on Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:08 am

England, thanks for the post. Would there be any benifit to using HCG at the end of these cycles? I'm a newbie, and I have not been able to figure out what types of cycles require HCG? As Far as I can tell, ther isn't much downside risk with HCG so long as it's used properly?

Also, do you think there's much benefit in using HGH for a newbie, or just stick with the "regular" stuff to start with, see how the body reacts, then decide if it's worth spending the big bucks on the more "exotic" gear?
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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by pincrusher on Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:18 am

John_Bobbit's_Unit wrote:England, thanks for the post. Would there be any benifit to using HCG at the end of these cycles? I'm a newbie, and I have not been able to figure out what types of cycles require HCG? As Far as I can tell, ther isn't much downside risk with HCG so long as it's used properly?

Also, do you think there's much benefit in using HGH for a newbie, or just stick with the "regular" stuff to start with, see how the body reacts, then decide if it's worth spending the big bucks on the more "exotic" gear?

newbies are much better off sticking with the basics and leaving the "exotics" for the experienced and those who need specific products for competition prep.
hcg can be used at the end of any cycle although most small newbie type cycles dont really need it. if used properly hcg will not have a down side other than it can convert to estrogen so you must make sure you take anti-e's while using it. it is also relatively inexpensive to buy so if you want to use it at the end of all cycles, go ahead

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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by John_Bobbit's_Unit on Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:51 am

pincrusher wrote:
John_Bobbit's_Unit wrote:England, thanks for the post. Would there be any benifit to using HCG at the end of these cycles? I'm a newbie, and I have not been able to figure out what types of cycles require HCG? As Far as I can tell, ther isn't much downside risk with HCG so long as it's used properly?

Also, do you think there's much benefit in using HGH for a newbie, or just stick with the "regular" stuff to start with, see how the body reacts, then decide if it's worth spending the big bucks on the more "exotic" gear?

newbies are much better off sticking with the basics and leaving the "exotics" for the experienced and those who need specific products for competition prep.
hcg can be used at the end of any cycle although most small newbie type cycles dont really need it. if used properly hcg will not have a down side other than it can convert to estrogen so you must make sure you take anti-e's while using it. it is also relatively inexpensive to buy so if you want to use it at the end of all cycles, go ahead

Thanks for the info pincrusher, I'm trying to learn as much as I can before I get started. My plan right now is to go with England's cycle #2.
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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by CHAPS on Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:53 am

I think orals are fine for a first time user as long as the user has a proper base as far as size and strength, i myself haven't done a cycle yet but i wouldn't think twice about using d-bol in my first cycle because i routinely deadlift and squat 400+, so i know my joints are nice n strong.

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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by lil' John on Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:19 am

Hey all I am about to to do my first cycle and was going to do test e. 250 twice a week, I was hoping to do this for about 8-10 weeks then finish off with some clomid and then a cycle of clen and T4( the site was out of T3, so it should do about the same right?) but I was recommended that this is not a good cycle for first timers, but almost everyone has told me it is, got any advice?
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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by tomiie on Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:14 am

all these cycles use clomid for PCT but I've heard that this stuff can affect your mood quite badly. Most cycles I've read about seem to use nolvadex, can you use this on these cycles instead? Or should both be used?

Also, I've seen people say they use nolvadex all through the cycle as well, should this be done with a first time newbies cycle?
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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by BigT on Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:58 am

Why do the orals seem to give you more strength? I thought the reason people did the injections was because they were more effective??? And also as tommiie asked. Is it a good idea to take a small dose of Novidex thru out your first cycle? Thanks
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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by gustavo77 on Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:42 am

Orals are generally fast acting so they give you good results quickly, but with most, like d-bol the gains are not always well maintained. Orals are also not generally recommended for long cycles. Injectables such as Test E, C and many more will give you better results but over more time. The gains from most good injectables can be maintained with proper P.C.T.


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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by TANK828 on Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:35 am

Good Work I Have Gotten A Lot Of Good Knowledge Here


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Post by groinalgoblet on Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:35 am

While I've been researching for my 1st cycle I was told by most on here not to do less than 500mg ew of test because it would shut me down doing say 300mg ew & not give me much after that, but i notice you dont say at least 500mg ew.
So do you think I could get decent gains doing say 300mg ew of test e???
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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by shortys_102 on Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:36 am

i am on my first cycle and i am taking 500mgs of test e and 300 of d-bol. i found just a beginer test e cycle and decided to add some d-bol to it. but i just started it two days ago and i feel better than ever accept my i found out the hard was not to inject to quickly so i am sore as fuck
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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by Kappa411 on Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:55 am

Mr.E wrote:First cycle posts are the most common posts on any AAS discussion board.This post will help guide anyone trying to decide on their first cycle.

DIET-
First things first.As a newbie you must make SURE that you're diet is on the money.When I say diet I dont mean diet as in to drop fat,I mean you're overall food consumption.You need to know how to eat correctly and in accordance with you're goals.Bulking or cutting it doesn't matter.Diet is the most important factor in making an AAS cycle work the way it is supposed to. You need to know the proper foods to eat,in the proper amounts and at the right times.I suggest doing basic diet research untill you have a good understanding of eating correctly.Don't even think about starting your first cycle untill you have done this otherwise you will be waisting you're money and ruining what could have been a great first cycle.

AAS-
It is my opinion that a first cycle should be bulking,always.If you feel you need to drop some fat then cut naturally using ECA,low carb high pro diets and lots of cardio.Dont waist your first cycle on trying to cut up mass you dont have is what I'm trying to say.Once you feel you are at a low enough BF% then is time to choose a bulk cycle.

Here are the three bulk cycles that I feel are the most effective overall.They are all simple and very cost effective.The weight gain numbers I quoted are averages,individual results will vary.This is of course assuming you are running the correct diet.

Cycle#1 Good for 10-15lbs.
Wk..Enth
1.....300
2.....300
3.....300
4.....300
5.....300
6.....300
7.....300
8.....300
9.....300
10...300
11.off
12.off
13.150mg Clomid ED
14.100mg ED
15.50mg ED

*Notes.
Keep nolvadex on hand just in case.A small dose [.25-.50mg ED]of Armidex ED will keep the water retention down and estrogen levels in check decreasing your chances of gyno symptons.You can also use Cyp instead of Enth.

Cycle#2 Good for 15-25lbs.
Wk..Enth..Deca
1.....250...200
2.....250...200
3.....250...200
4.....250...200
5.....250...200
6.....250...200
7.....250...200
8.....250...200
9.....250...200
10...250...200
11.off
12.off
13.150mg Clomid ED
14.100mg ED
15.50mg ED

*Notes.
Same as above.The overall AAS dosage per/week has increased to 450mg/week with this cycle over 300mg/week as in the first cycle.You can use EQ instead of Deca.

Cycle#3 Good for 20-30lbs.
Wk..Enth..Deca
1.....400...300
2.....400...300
3.....400...300
4.....400...300
5.....400...300
6.....400...300
7.....400...300
8.....400...300
9.....400...300
10...400...300
11.off
12.off
13.150mg Clomid ED
14.100mg ED
15.50mg ED

*Notes
Same as above.The overall AAS dosage per/week has increased to 700mg/week with this cycle over 450mg/week as in the second cycle.

Which one to choose is up to you.That depends on how aggressive or passive you want to be.

For the cycle I bolded.. what do you recomend for injection times? .. All at once? Spread per week?
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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by El Mucho on Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:57 am

If you're using test enanthate that is 250mg/ml, then you should take a shot of .6ml twice a week. Like .6ml on Monday and .6ml on Thursday. Or Sun. and Wed., just something like that. The BD test e is 250mg/ml. I like this cycle. Most will tell you to use a minimum of 500mg of test for your first cycle, but you really don't need that much to grow. Yes, the more you use the bigger you will get, but the side effects will also be worse. I wouldn't suggest an AI through out the cycle unless you should need it. If you start Aromasin at 20-25mg a day from week 11 on through PCT with the Clomid, you might keep a little more muscle.
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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by scooterboy on Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:47 am

on post cycle section, there is some very good imformation on hcg. very important. a must read
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Re: First Steroid Cycle Guide

Post by scooterboy on Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:24 am

post cycle theropy has great write up. everything is covered very nicely. it is a must read
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Post by scooterboy on Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:58 am

look up post cycles. hcg imformation there

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