I agonized over fat burning because I have built up so much over several years, to include massive amounts of visceral fat. Discussed Clen/T3 with RoidsPharm and devised a plan of action... It is working great! I went with the RoidsPharm selected the Kalpa Pharma T3 and the Dragon Pharma's Clen, and as always it was fast arriving. One thing I have studied... if your diet is not on, then your cycle isn't going to work. I'm eight days into my Clen/T3 cycle with 7-lbs weight lost whilst hammering the workouts on Tren/Test... ... The arms are not smaller, the legs are not smaller, the chest is pretty much the same and the neck is the same; but, that waste line is down four inches of pure hard to lose fat! So, this product works. What many people have warned me off from due to bad experiences has been a good experience for me, so I rate this product as excellent! And I reserve excellent for undebatable results!