Hey guys i think im all set to officially start my first cycle, i know where to get pins, etc. I just wanted to give you a quick overall and so i can finalize everything. All input would be GREATLY appreciated!!
again I am:
25
5'11"
210
17% bf (going to cut down to at least 15 before starting)
Been lifting solid 3-5 days a week for the last 4 years

week 1-12
Test E 500mg
week 1-6
T-Bol 50mg/ed broken up throughout the day
week 3-12
HCG 500iu 2x per week (This one im confused about i read its only good to run it for 3-5 weeks or it will shut you down irreversibly perhaps)
PCT - 2 weeks after last injection
week 1
nolva 60mg e/d clomid 100mg e/d
week 2
nolva 40mg e/d clomid 100mg e/d
week 3
nolva 20mg e/d clomid 50mg e/d
week 4
nolva 20mg e/d clomid 50mg e/d

please let me know how this looks or if you would do something else for a first cycle, i was curious about maybe adding decca and cutting the t-bol? I want to keep the most possible in case this is my only cycle. what is the most beneficial as far as size and keeping it? thanks guys!

I like the cycle you have. Removing the Tbol and adding Deca will put a lot of water weight of you and with your bf% might make you mad. The Tbol should do well in cutting you down a bit and adding some lean muscle/strength. Add in some Liv52 or atleast Milk Thistle to keep your liver happy while on the oral.

I dont think you will need to start the HCG at week 2....you could probably hold off on that for a few weeks.

looks like you did your homework!! cycle looks good.if you want to add deca go ahead but keep the t-bol.also at 500 iu's you shouldn't have to worry about it

69ECLIPSE wrote:looks like you did your homework!! cycle looks good.if you want to add deca go ahead but keep the t-bol.also at 500 iu's you shouldn't have to worry about it

well i planned on 500iu's twice a week, is that ok for week 3-12? Because one thread someone talked about how it was only smart to run it 3-5 weeks or so.

Thanks for all of your input so far!

I don't think you need to run the HCG that long. I would wait until you were at least halfway through your cycle around week 6 or so, but the cycle looks good to me.

Wheat, you should do the Mr. & Ms. ****** Comp while your at it.

Wheat wrote:well i planned on 500iu's twice a week, is that ok for week 3-12? Because one thread someone talked about how it was only smart to run it 3-5 weeks or so.

Thanks for all of your input so far!

After 2-3 weeks your natural test is gonna be shut down, taking hcg at 500iu twice a week from week three all the way to pct is a fantastic way to keep your boys working. This has been backed up by lots of clinical data. This is what was recommended to me by Visions and I recommend it to you. Keep'em working and they will respond to pct wonderfully!!

The T-bol Takes A Little While To Kick In But You Can Tell The Difference When They Do The Pumps Are Great

ChuckaZulu wrote:Wheat, you should do the Mr. & Ms. ****** Comp while your at it.

sounds like a pretty good idea to me! maybe i will...i mean ill prob have pretty good improvement from never have done a cycle to lifting hard and doing a cycle...
hmmm...thanks for the idea ChuckaZulu!

gustavo77 wrote:After 2-3 weeks your natural test is gonna be shut down, taking hcg at 500iu twice a week from week three all the way to pct is a fantastic way to keep your boys working. This has been backed up by lots of clinical data. This is what was recommended to me by Visions and I recommend it to you. Keep'em working and they will respond to pct wonderfully!!

cool deal, then ill keep with it as planned...to do the 500iu's from week 3-12 thanks a lot for you help !