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Nitric Oxide supps and scuba diving

Post by Cannons on Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:23 am

This question is for those experienced with scuba diving please. I am a certified open water diver, I dive at least once every weekend. I have the bio-genetix kit that I'm going to start to take. Now, you know that the SCUBA tank is mostly nitrogen with a little oxygen mix. I'm wondering if its going to hurt to have these supplements in my system when I dive. I don't want to take the risk of decompression sickness or narcosis from having too much nitrogen in my body. I'm not even sure if it is the same type. The supp I have has arginine in it that produces NO in the body. I was thinking of maybe taking it throughout the week and not taking it on the weekend. I've searched for this and not found anything on it. Anyone else taking NO supplements or arginine and dive frequently? Thanks.


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Re: Nitric Oxide supps and scuba diving

Post by halfast on Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:18 am

I have no scuba experience but have this article on NO products you might find interesting.

Supplements that reportedly increase nitric oxide levels within the body are currently being marketed as powerful muscle builders. The marketers of these supplements claim they increase nitric oxide levels within muscle tissue and a dramatic increase in muscle size, strength is experienced. Other claims also include an increase in fast-twitch muscle fiber strength, endurance, power output, and load capacity from taking these supplements. These reported benefits are quite specific, so I decided to scan the literature for the scientific evidence that supports these claims.

Nitric Oxide – what is it?

Nitric oxide is a colorless, free radical gas commonly found in tissues of all mammals (it’s also prepared commercially by passing air through an electric arc). Biologically, nitric oxide has been shown to be an important neuro-messenger in a number of vertebrate signal transduction processes. Nitric oxide is used in medical treatment; for example, nitroglycerin ameliorates the pain of angina by supplying nitric oxide to the blood vessels that supply the heart. The popular drug Viagra controls erection by regulating nitric oxide in the penile cartilage chamber.

The Research and the Claims

I don’t know where the marketers obtained their literature on nitric oxide. It looks like they are using the same journals as the companies selling Myostatin inhibitors – Alice in Wonderland. Although nitric oxide acts as a cell-to-cell communicator for certain metabolic functions, muscle growth is not one of them. After a review of the available literature I cannot find any research that remotely indicates increasing nitric oxide levels plays a part in increasing protein synthesis, contractile strength or any other biochemical pathway that may lead to increases in muscle mass.

For a company to claim their supplement increases “fast-twitch” muscle strength, the promoters must have instigated or funded some kind of research that involved biopsy procedures and histochemical analyses to extract, assesses and identify these particular muscle fibers from animals or humans, before and after supplementation. However, I could find no documentation (either on their web sites or via a literature scan) that details these findings, only the marketing claims. As far as I’m aware, there is zero scientific evidence supporting the notion that nitric oxide supplements increase “fast-twitch” muscle strength.

There also appears to be no evidence whatsoever that shows increasing nitric oxide levels enhances endurance, power output, and load capacity.

Arginine alpha-ketogluterate is the “active” ingredient reported by one company that sells this type of supplement. It is claimed that this compound increases and maintains a constantly high level of nitric oxide in muscle. Nitric oxide is synthesized within the body using the amino acid arginine, the energy cyclic substrate NADPH, and oxygen. Nitric oxide diffuses freely across membranes but it is a transient signaling molecule. Nitric oxide is by nature, a highly reactive gas that has an extremely short life – less than a few seconds. While there is a lot of research on the effects of nitric oxide, there is no research that shows supplementation with arginine alpha-ketogluterate increases or sustains nitric oxide levels in any human or animal organs.

Can you imagine, a supplement that “creates dramatic increases in muscle size, strength, endurance, power output, and load capacity”, but not a single study to support these claims. Nothing new here. Unfortunately, this is typical sports nutrition marketing bullshit. It's sad, misleading, and shows you just what these companies think of the intelligence level of their target market.

When new products burst onto the market, you the consumer can cut through the advertising hype quite easily. Simply ask the supplement company making the claims to "show you the research". A reference is a start, but the actual research study is particularly what your after. You want to see the study, the protocol, the outcome and the University at which the study was conducted. In the present case, you want to see a study showing were this supplement actually increased nitric oxide above a control group, and you want to see the data that demonstrates an increase in lean muscle mass, significantly more than the group without elevated nitric oxide levels.

The fact is, there is no science supporting any of the claims made for so-called nitric oxide supplements. There is no science showing they have any effect on nitric oxide levels and certainly no science showing in effects on muscle growth or increased performance.

Ask yourself why there is no research to support these companies’ wild claims. The simple answer is that research is expensive, make believe products are not. Research provides evidence, fraudulent supplement marketing only delivers hype. It’s far more financially rewarding to sell hype than to produce effective supplements backed by science.

One promoter of a nitric oxide supplement claims to have “brought creatine supplementation to the market” and that their supplement is “the perfected version of creatine”. I’m not sure which market is being referred to but creatine has been used as a supplement for over 40 years. And in NO way are nitric oxide supplements a “perfected version of creatine”. They are nothing like creatine. While creatine is backed by a wealth of research, nitric oxide supplements do not have a shred of scientific evidence that justifies their effectiveness as a bodybuilding supplements.

Bottom line, money spent on these products is money flushed down the toilet.
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Re: Nitric Oxide supps and scuba diving

Post by Visions on Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:20 am

I agree 100% with that article... this is exactly why I go straight to the clinical studies when I want to find out about something like I did with nolva cause everyone was using it for PCT yet I couldn't find one study saying it increased test production and thats one reason why I never recommend it... Many studies have been done with Nolva and if it increased test it would have shown up like it has with AI's... so I agree with this article and won't use products like Nitric oxde boosters or whatever else they call them...


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Re: Nitric Oxide supps and scuba diving

Post by JDawg on Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:12 am

ok bro it took a lil while but i got ahold of my younger brother jamie,,via email and hes in the teams (navy seals) he asked a few of his members and sum of them use no2,, and as you know they dive constantly,,,so i guess ur good to go... but heres something i found with n/o from experiance,,, i dont buy into the bullshit that n/o is sum sort of great chemical with all this research and hype behind it,, my money only goes so far,,so tell me why they charge 30-50 bucks a bottle for it,, but yet a cup of coffe/tea renders it absolutley useless..... the way i see it is if a so called chemical is worth 50 bucks, a 50cent cup of coffee shouldnt piss it away...
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Re: Nitric Oxide supps and scuba diving

Post by Visions on Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:44 am

After years of trying a hell of alot of suppliments here is my suppliment list...

A freezer full of veggies,,, fresh chicken, turkey, steak and alot of seasonings, sauces ect... Fruit, yogurt,,, in other words... Real food!!!... if I take a suppliment its like Supergreen foods or other simular products...


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Re: Nitric Oxide supps and scuba diving

Post by Cannons on Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:34 am

Your opinions and articles on the supplement are appreciated, but all I wanted was an answer of would it affect my diving.  The only reason I am trying this supplement combo is because my best friend and two other friends of mine have had dramatic results from it in the past month (and its not because they just started lifting, they are all advanced bodybuilders, and have been natural from 1-2 years now).  And as most of you know, I am also not a newbie to bodybuilding, nutrition or supplementation.  Everyones body is different and supplement companies are becoming rather innovative as of late.   I myself am willing to experiment especially if I know more than one person who has had good results.  Another thing to consider, my diet is good, always has been.  Veggies, fruits, meats, etc. are good for nutrition and a good tool for creating a 'muscle building' environment, but if you can find supplements that work for you, and work natrually with your body (as naturally as a supplement can) then you can boost your bodies potential.   Of course this is my view on it, everyone has a view. So I will more research, but thanks Jdawg for your feedback.  I'm gonna dig a little deeper on this one.  I like to get several sources of info.  Thanks again guys.


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